Second Account - Guild Wars Forums

Slick Blade · Nov 17, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53

I can undersatnd why u only get 4 characters although it pisses me off as i need more. So i was wondering is there a way to purchase a second account without actually buying the whole game again. I thought maybe you could purchase a second cd key online cheaper than buying the whole game?

Lasareth · Nov 17, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58

The only legal thing you can do is buy another game.

Azn D · Nov 17, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Buy it off someone! Or even better eBay! That's where i got mine

Zaklex · Nov 17, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Azn D

Buy it off someone! Or even better eBay! That's where i got mine

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT buy your game off of Ebay as this is a violation of the EULA and ToS(Terms of Service). It is a bannable offense.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 17, 2005, 11:25 PM // 23:25

He's right, and plus, it might not be legit anyways. I bought one, even though it worked, it was shortly thereafter banned for some previous infraction <NOT, I Repeat NOT the EULA breach> so take this as you will.

--The Shim

RobotMULE · Nov 18, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Its perfectly fine to buy off Ebay as long as you're buying the new retail game and not someone's used account.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 18, 2005, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Retail game yes; but this thread was on ACCOUNTS, not to bag on ya, just read closer =) I know you're just pointing this out, though.

--The Shim

Sir Skullcrasher · Nov 18, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

wait... you can buy golds off ebay without being banned unless your account is not legit?

Kamatsu · Nov 18, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

wait... you can buy golds off ebay without being banned unless your account is not legit?

Technically buying anything off ebay concerning GW, apart from unopened retail boxes (and even then I wonder..

), is against the EULA and TOS and thus can get your account banned.

So buy'ing gold, or gold items, etc off ebay can get you banned if ANet find out about it and decide's to take action on it.

Bastard Son · Nov 18, 2005, 04:30 AM // 04:30

You can download the game and buy a second account legally, but you don't save any money. I realized this after posting a similar question here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=80625

Kamatsu · Nov 18, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Bastard son - actually, depending on where your from or such you can save money by buying it online.

I believe it retails for ~$55 in the US, so your saving ~$5 from no taxes..

Also, say your buying from overseas - lets say Australia.. $50 US = $69.6 Au, now you add in oh.. lets say a ~$10 fee for Foreign currency conversion.. and your looking at $80 (rounded up..) Au. Considering that GW cost's ~$90-100 retail in Australia.. thats a saving of ~$10-20! course it does depend a lot on what the exchange rate is at time of purchase as well as any bank fee's associated with the transaction..

But it is a fair propersition (sp?) that people can save money buying it online - whether it's just a ~$5 tax saving or a $10+ saving due to currency exhange and cost of GW locally..

Lokin · Nov 18, 2005, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Hi, i bought it off ebay(the game NOT ACCOUNT) when i installed it it said that the cd key was already in use

, i have emailed the person i bought it off to see that it is wiped off his computer and he says yes. I have emailed ANET have had no reply off them, and the person i bought it off has emailed them, is there anything else i can do

Kamatsu · Nov 18, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04

Lokin - yes, go and buy a legit/retail copy .. seeing as ANet will likely ban/block that account since selling accounts over ebay is against the EULA and illegal.

and CD-Key's are tied to accounts - you can't detatch the cd-key for creation in another account. Thus you can't create your own account with that CD-Key... all you could do is use the account s/he created using that cd-key.. and hope that ANet doesn't ban you or the owner gets control of the account again..

BTW.. if the person only gave you the CD-Key.. then they ripped you off because you have absolutely no way to use that CD-Key.. not that buy'ing the key over ebay was even legal anyways. The only way you could have possible used the account is if you were provided the e-mail & password used to log into the account.. without those 2 things the cd-key is 100% useless to you..

Lokin · Nov 18, 2005, 10:13 AM // 10:13

it is the legit/retail product box 2 manuals 2 discs and key code on back of the disc 1, has has emailed them and cancelled his accounts nothing illegal about it

Kamatsu · Nov 18, 2005, 10:28 AM // 10:28

Lokin -

http://www.guildwars.com/legal/user-agreement.html

Quote:

3. LICENSE TO USE

Subject to the terms of this Agreement, NC Interactive grants to you, for your personal use only, a non-exclusive, revocable, nontransferable (except as permitted in Section 4(a)) license to use the Service, and a non-exclusive, revocable, nontransferable (except as permitted in Section 4(a)) license to use the Software in connection with the Service, without charge except for new Chapters which will be charged on a prepaid basis according to Section 5.

You may not (a) sublicense, rent, lease, loan or otherwise transfer the Software or the Service (or any part thereof), including without limitation access keys...

The access key can be used only once.

Sorry, it's not legal to resell Guild Wars if you have already opened the box and used it. And considering the CD-Key has already been used, it means that person agree'ed to the EULA & TOS, and thus has no legal rights to re-sell the product.

And if he really did e-mail them to try and cancel his ties to the account telling them he sold the account, you can expect ANet to ban/block the account since what he did was illegal and breaking the EULA.. and ANet do ban/block accounts sold over ebay if they discover it.

Lokin · Nov 18, 2005, 10:48 AM // 10:48

At the end of the day, when you lose intrest in a game you have bought and dont intend to play it again, they more or less telling you to throw ??25 in the bin, would you??????

lg5000 · Nov 18, 2005, 12:23 PM // 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamatsu

Bastard son - actually, depending on where your from or such you can save money by buying it online.

I believe it retails for ~$55 in the US, so your saving ~$5 from no taxes..

Also, say your buying from overseas - lets say Australia.. $50 US = $69.6 Au, now you add in oh.. lets say a ~$10 fee for Foreign currency conversion.. and your looking at $80 (rounded up..) Au. Considering that GW cost's ~$90-100 retail in Australia.. thats a saving of ~$10-20! course it does depend a lot on what the exchange rate is at time of purchase as well as any bank fee's associated with the transaction..

But it is a fair propersition (sp?) that people can save money buying it online - whether it's just a ~$5 tax saving or a $10+ saving due to currency exhange and cost of GW locally..

Well.. except that I got a copy for AU$70... without needing to use a credit card for either buying it off the site or making a paypal account from Australia.

Kamatsu · Nov 18, 2005, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by lg5000

Well.. except that I got a copy for AU$70... without needing to use a credit card for either buying it off the site or making a paypal account from Australia.

You did? Where'd you buy your copy so damned cheap? Second hand or retail? Oh, and when did you buy it? I ask when since chances are prices have been marked down by now and thus can get it cheaper now.. *shrugs*

Lokin · Nov 18, 2005, 01:15 PM // 13:15

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Originally Posted by kamatsu

You did? Where'd you buy your copy so damned cheap? Second hand or retail? Oh, and when did you buy it? I ask when since chances are prices have been marked down by now and thus can get it cheaper now.. *shrugs*

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=s...C&title=586714

fenix · Nov 18, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

My brother got GW for 70 bucks too, that was 5 months ago, in a sale at EB Games. Heh.

I was sure you could go online at the GW site or something and buy another account. Or am I once again mistaken?

Nov 17, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#1
Slick Blade Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005	Second Account I can undersatnd why u only get 4 characters although it pisses me off as i need more. So i was wondering is there a way to purchase a second account without actually buying the whole game again. I thought maybe you could purchase a second cd key online cheaper than buying the whole game?

Nov 17, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#2
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	The only legal thing you can do is buy another game.

Nov 17, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#3
Azn D Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: DMV Profession: R/	Buy it off someone! Or even better eBay! That's where i got mine

Nov 17, 2005, 11:25 PM // 23:25	#5
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	He's right, and plus, it might not be legit anyways. I bought one, even though it worked, it was shortly thereafter banned for some previous infraction <NOT, I Repeat NOT the EULA breach> so take this as you will. --The Shim

Nov 18, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07	#6
RobotMULE Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/W	Its perfectly fine to buy off Ebay as long as you're buying the new retail game and not someone's used account.

Nov 18, 2005, 01:12 AM // 01:12	#7
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	Retail game yes; but this thread was on ACCOUNTS, not to bag on ya, just read closer =) I know you're just pointing this out, though. --The Shim

Nov 18, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24	#8
Sir Skullcrasher Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare] Profession: W/Mo	wait... you can buy golds off ebay without being banned unless your account is not legit?

Nov 18, 2005, 04:30 AM // 04:30	#10
Bastard Son Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Upstate NY Guild: Bastahd Sons of Zeus	You can download the game and buy a second account legally, but you don't save any money. I realized this after posting a similar question here: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=80625

Nov 18, 2005, 05:44 AM // 05:44	#11
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	Bastard son - actually, depending on where your from or such you can save money by buying it online. I believe it retails for ~$55 in the US, so your saving ~$5 from no taxes.. Also, say your buying from overseas - lets say Australia.. $50 US = $69.6 Au, now you add in oh.. lets say a ~$10 fee for Foreign currency conversion.. and your looking at $80 (rounded up..) Au. Considering that GW cost's ~$90-100 retail in Australia.. thats a saving of ~$10-20! course it does depend a lot on what the exchange rate is at time of purchase as well as any bank fee's associated with the transaction.. But it is a fair propersition (sp?) that people can save money buying it online - whether it's just a ~$5 tax saving or a $10+ saving due to currency exhange and cost of GW locally..

Nov 18, 2005, 09:51 AM // 09:51	#12
Lokin Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WALES	Hi, i bought it off ebay(the game NOT ACCOUNT) when i installed it it said that the cd key was already in use , i have emailed the person i bought it off to see that it is wiped off his computer and he says yes. I have emailed ANET have had no reply off them, and the person i bought it off has emailed them, is there anything else i can do

Nov 18, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#13
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	Lokin - yes, go and buy a legit/retail copy .. seeing as ANet will likely ban/block that account since selling accounts over ebay is against the EULA and illegal. and CD-Key's are tied to accounts - you can't detatch the cd-key for creation in another account. Thus you can't create your own account with that CD-Key... all you could do is use the account s/he created using that cd-key.. and hope that ANet doesn't ban you or the owner gets control of the account again.. BTW.. if the person only gave you the CD-Key.. then they ripped you off because you have absolutely no way to use that CD-Key.. not that buy'ing the key over ebay was even legal anyways. The only way you could have possible used the account is if you were provided the e-mail & password used to log into the account.. without those 2 things the cd-key is 100% useless to you..

Nov 18, 2005, 10:13 AM // 10:13	#14
Lokin Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WALES	it is the legit/retail product box 2 manuals 2 discs and key code on back of the disc 1, has has emailed them and cancelled his accounts nothing illegal about it

Nov 18, 2005, 10:48 AM // 10:48	#16
Lokin Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: WALES	At the end of the day, when you lose intrest in a game you have bought and dont intend to play it again, they more or less telling you to throw ??25 in the bin, would you??????

Nov 18, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#20
fenix Major-General Awesome Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&# Profession: W/	My brother got GW for 70 bucks too, that was 5 months ago, in a sale at EB Games. Heh. I was sure you could go online at the GW site or something and buy another account. Or am I once again mistaken?